That's eight years without a trophy.
Forget about the Champions League. Forget it.
Arsenal produced close to their worst against Blackburn and were dumped out of the FA Cup.
Even if they produce their very best against Bayern, they are absolute underdogs.
Whatever happens over those two legs, the season is another write off as far as silverware is concerned.
Fourth place is still of paramount importance, but Arsenal's inability since the Birmingham League Cup final debacle two seasons back to even come close to competing for honours is a huge embarrassment to the club.
This season, they have exited both domestic cup competitions to lower league opposition; if they lose as expected to Bayern and fail to reel Tottenham in in the league, it will indisputably rank as Wenger's worst season.
Anger rises again in the stands, on phone in shows, on message boards, from the die hards and from the blowhards.
When the gleaming Emirates was opened for business seven years ago, this is not what they envisaged.
And selling the future is no longer a viable excuse. Suddenly the future looks quite murky. With the climate at the club as it is, it seems unlikely that Wenger will last beyond the end of his current deal. Who will come in? How long before "future captain" Jack Wilshere's head is turned? And if Arsenal fall out of the Champions League positions this season, will it prove the monumental kick up the backside that most people now feel the club needs? Or will it be just the beginning of the real decline?